I don't know why everybody is so keen on GIF-files. I hate them for these reasons: 1) They are usually very heavy, unless you shrink them to hazy thumbnails. 2) You can hardly make a screenshot of them. 3) They are soundless (no mmmpf's or grrll's in bondage) 4) They show sometimes some strange color patterns (error). Everyone who downloaded GIF's knows what I am talking about. I will never no more post a GIF on D.A. I prefer MP4 instead: 1) They occupy less space on my harddisk (sometimes 1/5th to even 1/10th of the same clip) 2) You can make as much screenshots as you want. 3) And you can hear the sound of gagged women! 4) No more disturbing color error patterns. 5) And if you use the right viewer (VLC media player), you can put them in an endless loop. I will post some clips very soon, so everybody will notice the difference. And I'm glad to open a discussion forum with my 'bondagefriends' Freki